I’ve just read the SBS vol 73 and so freaking out while Oda answer the question “Zoro has never actually called Sanji by name, hasn’t he?”
And he just list all the times that Zoro and Sanji call each other (from vol 5 till then)
OMFG !!! HOW I LOVE ODA after this SBS
and It’s true that in canon story, Zoro has never called Sanji by name.
his husband Zoro by the name 6 times.
can someone please translate this for me?
(or tell me where I can find translation, google is a bust)
I really want to know exactly what it says but I can’t read more than just the most basic Kanji.
Zoro call Sanji
1) Teme: 16 times (you in informal way)
2) Omae: 11 times (you in informal way)
3) Cook: 6 times
4) Baka: 3 times
5) 2 times: Oi, Aitsu (he in informal way), Ano Yarou (that stupid guy), Omei (you in informal way), Baka Cook
10) 1 time:
Koitsu (he in informal way), Aho Cook, Baka Yarou, Kuso Cook (damn cook), Suteki Mayuge (amazing eyebrow), Are, Ero Kappa, Aho, Baka Mayuge, Dart, Dart Mayuge (dart eyebrow), Guru guru (curly curly), Hogeh, Mr Hanaji (Mr Nosebleed), Hepo Cook (I don’t really know this), Hanaji-kun (nosebleed-kun)
Sanji call Zoro
1) Teme : 33 times
2) Omae : 9 times
3) 7 times: Omei, Marimo
5) 6 times: Zoro, Shitty bastard
7) 4 times: Ano yarou
8) 3 times: Koitsu
9) 2 times: Oi, Baka, Aho Kenshi (stupid swordman)
12) 1 times: Dokka no Kenshi (cocky swordman), Roronoa Zoro, Kuso Kenshi (Damn swordman), Marimo-kun, Baka Kenshi (Stupid swordman), Kuso Maiko Yarou (Damn Lostkid), Aitsu, Saboten-kun (Cactus-kun), Tai Chyura baka (Stupid Muscle), Marimo head, Ano Baka, Marimomashi, Baka Marimo, Mataku, Mo (moss), Marimo Kenshi (Marimo Swordman), Zoro-kun, Are, Maiko Marimo, Midori (Green)
Thank you so much! Ugh those are too cute. Oda is so amazing.
Website noting all of the names up to episode 345.
Personal headcanon on Sanji and Zoro:
When Sanji first joined the crew, he genuinely liked Zoro and wanted to become really good friends.
It was the first time he’d spent time around someone his own age, and in all honesty, Zoro impressed him during his fight with Mihawk.
Not just the fight itself—which was pretty impressive, especially when you consider that Sanji knew about Mihawk before the Straw Hats ever arrived—but Zoro’s dedication to his cause. It struck a nerve with Sanji, and made him intensely curious about this man and his motivations.
Zoro’s fight against Mihawk also made Sanji believe in the impossible. He made Sanji believe he could stand up to the Don Krieg Pirates, even when he was really in no physical condition to continue the battle. Luffy and Zoro impressed him a lot, and Sanji thought that he and Zoro would become close.
ZORO, on the other hand, was not used to people liking him. He was the infamous Pirate Hunter, hated by marines and pirates alike. Which suited him just fine, because in the struggle towards his ‘There can be only one’ goal of becoming the world’s greatest swordsman, attachments made him weak.
In the same way that Sanji sees Luffy as being childish, Zoro views Sanji’s idiot interactions with the rest of the crew—especially Nami—as foolish. He sees Sanji as being worse than naive, he sees him as wanting to be taken advantage of. He sees him as wanting to be subjugated and wanting to serve, and he can’t reconcile it. Zoro is a man who has always made his own way, whereas Sanji lives and breathes the life of a nakama well before he ever sets foot upon the Merry. Being a good crewmate and going out of your way to make other people happy/well fed is just first nature to Sanji, who very frequently will put everyone else’s needs before his own.
These traits in Sanji are actually so confusing to Zoro that he discounts Sanji and any measure of strength the cook might possess as insignificant. He doesn’t want to be friends, and I think a large portion of why has to do with him believing Sanji is just going to get himself killed. He’s going to be another weak link. He’s just another person who will insert himself into Zoro’s life as someone who needs protection.
Zoro will either need to mourn his loss, or he will have to give up his dream by dying to protect him. Zoro does NOT handle loss well, and giving up his dream is not an option, so he creates the third option of not allowing an attachment to be formed.
Which is when he starts to shut Sanji down. He questions why Sanji does something as natural as calling him by his first name (the infamous dishes scene), while for Sanji he can’t imagine handling their interactions a different way (obviously you say someone’s name before handing them a breakable dish on a ship, or else they’re going to drop it). Zoro is uncomfortable and awkward with Sanji, and pushes him away both verbally and physically.
Lucky for Zoro, this is actually what Sanji recognises love as looking like. ”Shitty” is both the lowest insult and the highest praise he can offer someone (e.g. Shitty old man, Shitty restaurant, Shitty swordsman). He’s worked his whole life with people who mocked and taunted him. On the Orbit, we see the other cooks as making fun of his dreams. Afterwards, he has his life saved by a man who had previously been intent on killing him (Or at least kicking the shit out of him).
He goes on to see that same shitty old man as a father figure, and that shitty old man spends the next 13ish years of his life abusing him mentally and physically. But the thing about Zeff, the thing that Sanji slowly came to realise, is that Zeff only ever did these things to make him stronger.
So, when Zoro berates him or mocks him into starting a fight, Sanji believes deep inside that it’s entirely a matter of making him stronger. So that’s what he does. Zoro fights every day in the hopes that he can some day be stronger than Mihawk, Sanji fights to just keep on the same level as Zoro, and Zoro appreciates the progress because it a. also keeps him sharp, and b. improves Sanji’s skills to a point where he doesn’t actually have to worry about him.
Zoro slowly comes to love and respect Sanji as one of his closest friends, if not his absolute closest. Except that he’s pretty sure that Sanji has genuinely come to hate him, and Zoro has no idea how to turn that around. He’s not even sure he wants to, because he’s so damn comfortable with the way they push each other, and the way they work together (even if it’s not always apparent to anyone else that working together is actually what they’re doing).
Which is why Thriller Bark is SO IMPORTANT. Zoro sacrifices himself to protect Luffy, which is in turn an attempt to protect his own dream (Because one can’t be the world’s best swordsman if he can’t even protect his own captain, so what’s the point in continuing to live if Luffy dies). But then Sanji comes along and tries to stop it from happening.
He offers his own life in the hopes that he can save Zoro. He weighs himself and his own value against that of Zoro’s, and decides it is more important that Zoro continue living. He decides his own dreams are generally meaningless when compared to Zoro’s and Luffy’s. He decides that he is expendable.
And in that second, all of Zoro’s original fears about Sanji are realised. This guy who he was determined not to form an attachment to is offering up his own life for Zoro’s. Sanji’s not going to get anything out of it but dead, and they both know it. But Sanji puts on a brave face, and requests that Kuma kill him in Zoro’s place. He literally places himself between Zoro and what they both believe is certain death.
And Zoro realises everything he’s done to distance himself from Sanji was a complete waste of time, and that despite their best efforts the pair of them have become better friends than anyone ever knew
(except Luffy, because that fucker knows everything about his nakama). Zoro does not let Sanji sacrifice himself because, as the old man on The Secret Island said, “Were the rabbit to die, the fox would be lonely and deeply distraught.”
Sanji does not know what to make of Zoro at this point. Zoro cuts him off before they ever have a chance to talk about it. Soon after, Sanji LEAVES NAMI’S SIDE in the middle of a retreat attempt to protect what he calls ‘Usopp’s group.’ But specifically it is a semi-conscious Zoro being carried by Usopp who is being targeted.
Sanji kicks the Pacifista using his strongest kick (diable jambe) to protect them, despite the fact that his leg was already broken in a previous fight. And when that fails, he wraps his arms around PX1’s leg and lets himself be dragged bodily behind the fucker, all in an effort to protect Zoro.
If you never shipped Zosan until this point, episode 404 is when you will start. It’s not the first time something like this happens, but it is the first time Sanji steps up in front of the rest of the crew and lets them all see that he actually gives a fuck about Zoro living. To the point that even when he’s thrown all he can at their enemy, he resorts to using his hands in an effort to stop him.
Let me just say that again: he resorts to using his hands.
It’s futile. He knows nothing is going to come from it. But it’s all he has left so he tries anyway. And for his efforts, PX1 picks him up and hits him directly with the exact same attack they were all trying to protect Zoro from. Sanji and Zoro are taken out of play.
Which is when Kuma shows up.
The only interaction Kuma has with the Straw Hats is watching Sanji and Zoro offer their lives for each other on Thriller Bark, and now this. And he looks at them all, and decides these are people he wants to protect. He decides to send every member of the crew far, far away to islands and situations designed specifically to improve their personal strengths (though they don’t know it at the time). He sends Zoro off to train with Mihawk, Nami to learn about weather control, Brook to a cult who worship him as a God…
And then there’s Sanji.
Kuma waits to enter the fight until Sanji goes down. After sizing them up, he sends Zoro to Mihawk and Brook to the cult. Sanji is being ordered by his captain to run so they can regroup, but he is so stunned by the loss that he pushes Usopp away, and tells him to get out of there, intending to (once again) sacrifice himself. At that point, he charges Kuma on a kamikaze run, expecting to go the same way as Zoro and Brook, but instead Kuma just repels him to the side.
If there’s one person in the entire One Piece universe who understands just how much Sanji loves Zoro, it’s Kuma. Which is why he hesitates before deciding where to send Sanji flying to. He eventually picks kingdom of okama that can teach him to be more comfortable with his feminine side, his emotions, and his confusing feelings
Ship or not, that doesn’t matter. KUMA ships it.
So much so that he uses his final act of humanity to plant himself between the Sunny and anyone who would do her harm. Kuma, who carries a bible, and believes in peace, and honour, and love decides based only on his interactions with Sanji and Zoro
(well, and maybe Luffy’s dad, but I don’t know if even Kuma realised that Luffy was Dragon’s son) that Luffy and his crew are the people he wants to ring in the new era. He believes in all of them because of the way Sanji and Zoro treat each other, and the way they treat their captain. Sanji and Zoro are true nakama.
So, what does all of this have to do with Sanji and Zoro calling each other by name?
It’s that after all of their history, all of their sacrifice and fighting and laughing and nakamaship, they still don’t do it. We are 634 episodes into the anime, 739 issues into the manga, 15 years into the series, and Zoro still hasn’t used Sanji’s name. And I prey it never happens, for one simple reason: the day that shitty Marimo actually calls the Prince of Idiot Kingdom by his given name is the day that one of them dies.
And on that day my heart is going to shatter into approximately a billion Pieces, and I will stop believing in the possibility that it could ever be put back into One.